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SovietMushroomCloud
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Re: DietPi vs Raspbian Lite!

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CJ01 wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:17 pm I'm glad everyone is having fun with DietPi. My experience is a bit different. See post viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4346&sid=d8aa99daf ... 99967550f5

I've installed it on a Pi3 B+ and installed the WifiHotspot and it works great. But my issue is with the PiZero W. Any package I install so far cause the Pi Zero W to just keep rebooting. Has anyone installed it on a Pi Zero W?
I am having issues with RPi zero W as well. maybe newest update of kernel/firmware is breaking things...
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Joulinar
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Re: DietPi vs Raspbian Lite!

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Hi,

let me try to answer your questions one by one:
SovietMushroomCloud wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:07 pm Hi there,
This is my feedback comparing dietpi and Pi OS lite. This is also my first contribution to this forum.
Welcome in our community

First of all, DietPi is not an own Operating System or Distribution. DietPi is a bundle of scripts on top of a standard Debian installation. Means the whole software update process is done the same way as on all other Debian distribution. Basically you could turn a normal Debian into a DietPi by just running 1 script. Depending on your SBC, DietPi is using different base images. Mainly used images are Armbian, Meveric or for PRi boards Raspberry OS. Means for your board Raspberry OS is used as base image, including kernel or firmware. DietPi themself did not provide this.
SovietMushroomCloud wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:07 pm I wanted to have alternative system for my pihole on pi zero w. I have exactly zero experience with dietpi.
Installation: Documentation to install is not great. I was looking for instruction how to DD or copy provided image to sd card, never found one, so I simply tried. I was looking for making a wpa_supplicant, because, remember, it is pi zero w, no keyboard, no monitor, no nothing. I figured out that wifi is set in some alternative place. ssh is enabled by default, nice.
A full documentation is available on our online docs https://dietpi.com/docs/
There is a documentation how to configure WiFi before first boot on our install guide chapter 2 / last section https://dietpi.com/docs/user-guide_inst ... all-dietpi
SovietMushroomCloud wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:07 pm First boot. This was painful, interactive guide was insisting on testing DNS resolv, but probably under ipv6. It keeps failing.
When I force it, using ping to 1.1.1.1 or something along those lines, it works, sort of.
we recommend to disable IPv6 if not activated/used on local network. This can be done on dietpi.txt before first boot.

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# IPv6
CONFIG_ENABLE_IPV6=0
As well the IP for DNS check can be adjusted on your needs within dietpi.txt before first boot.

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# General connection and DNS testing
# - IP to ping when checking network connectivity. Default: 1.1.1.1 (Cloudflare DNS, should be very fast world-wide)
CONFIG_CHECK_CONNECTION_IP=1.1.1.1
# - Domain to ping when checking DNS resolver. Default: one.one.one.one (Cloudflare DNS domain, see above)
CONFIG_CHECK_DNS_DOMAIN=one.one.one.one
SovietMushroomCloud wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:07 pm System then self updates, without asking me about it. At least it did not failed. Pi OS lite fails on apt-get upgrade when deploying new firmware and kernel...bricking device like pi zero w.
This is as expected. On first boot, DietPi will perform an update to latest version. Always. This is something that can't be skip.
SovietMushroomCloud wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:07 pm When I try to install anything, say pihole or nmap, it start nagging with testing my DNS, using hardcoded quad servers. My DNS is just fine, why it keeps nagging? I run alternative command 'true' but why it does not offer ignore option?
This is working as expected to ensure a valid network connection. IP for DNS check can be adjusted on your needs within dietpi.txt. s.a.
SovietMushroomCloud wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:07 pm At the end of day, I gave up (for now), I do not know if I have or have not ipv6 address and/or connectivity on this device, or if there is some problem. Why is that important enough to keep nagging about it every 30 seconds?
just disable IPv6 within dietpi.txt or use dietpi-config tool
SovietMushroomCloud wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:07 pm What it can and can not do? How do I install software withhout that dns nagging propmpt? What was my ip, both v6 and v4? is zeroconf running? mDNS?
Before every softeware installation, performed by dietpi-soctware, a DNS/network connectivity check is done.
SovietMushroomCloud wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:07 pm WHAT I LIKE: less writing, by default. SD should work longer.
This is one of the main aims of DietPi to reduce r/w operation on SD card as much as possible.
Pls let us know if a solution is working. This could help others if they hit by similar situation. Your DietPi Team
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Having had a pi model b 256mb since launch and trying several things to do with it (I had it running plane finder with ADSB receiver but the cheap DVB stick died after a year) my pi had been gathering dust... until I found DietPi :-) thanks for your amazing work, I'd tried to install pihole ages ago and failed, the hardest thing about DietPi was waiting for the OS to update, with very few keystrokes I have a fully working pihole running unbound too - the fact I didn't even know what unbound was but saw on the package list and thought yeah that's something to try shows how awesome the optimised software list is, I thought I'd have to do extra configuration but nope select both and sit back - 🤩 wow

Thanks :-)
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Re: DietPi vs Raspbian Lite!

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thx for your feedback and compliment. Much appreciated.
Pls let us know if a solution is working. This could help others if they hit by similar situation. Your DietPi Team
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We created a new comparison overview. Check it out https://dietpi.com/stats.html
Pls let us know if a solution is working. This could help others if they hit by similar situation. Your DietPi Team
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