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Cinos
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I just opened my account on your forum.
Owner of Pinebook 11" and I could not stand the sluggish KDE they installed so I eventually downloaded many distro they proposed on their wiki until yours showed up in the list and I remembered using it on a raspberry long ago.

It rocks on the pinebook! So, thanks to the whole team responsible for this release.

Hopefully I'll understand how to install it on the embedded storage in place of the SD card one day.
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Oh wow! Didn't know pinebook was so neat inside!

I would SO hack this sucker...probably even pull the USB case off..then open it up...solder down wires to the USB (on the expansion board on the left) and make it an "internal" USB so not to have a huge block hanging out of it...and use it like that.
I would wrap the USB pendrive w/o case in kapton or 18650 heatshrink tubing to prevent shorts)

Looks like there is PLENTY of room to do that
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There should be a way to mount thru dietpi-drive_manager and install it to emmc (find the docs before you try)
A 16 GB eMMC module is visible, up and right from the CPU. You can pick up replacements for the module—ranging in size from 8 GB to 64 GB—on the Pine store. The module is user-replaceable. Reportedly read speeds up to 80 MB/s and write speeds up to 40 MB/s are being seen with the module. The Pinebook is able to boot from both the internal eMMC or an external micro SD Card.
https://hackaday.com/2017/04/28/hands-o ... -pinebook/

The thing I am wondering is where is the heatsink? Does the bottomside of the keyboard act as the heatsink?
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MichaIng
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@Cinos
Thank you very much for the positive feedback.

About how to boot from eMMC:

Is it possible to plug off the eMMC? In this case you could plug into you PC/notebook either via USB-eMMC or (micro)SD-eMMC adapter. The latter at least is usually available for around 1-2 euro/dollar/pounds.
E.g. What Hardkernel offers:
https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/emmc-mo ... s-upgrade/
https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/usb3-0- ... le-writer/

If a fresh image is okay, you can also download the DietPi image to the Pinebook running system and flash it from there to the eMMC drive.

If you don't want to start from fresh flash, you can clone the SDcard content to eMMC from an external system by plugging both, the SDcard and the eMMC module and use the dd command from a linux system. Not sure how to achieve from Windows, but there will be some tools available as well.

Then you need to tell the system to boot from eMMC, from the Pine64 Wiki e.g.:
- Set or add to /boot/uEnv.txt: rootdev=/dev/mmcblk1p1
- In /etc/fstab, change mmcblk0p1 to mmcblk1p1.

This assumes the eMMC module is available as /dev/mmcblk1 with root partition /dev/mmcblk1p1. Actually it's better to use the drives UUID or PARTUUID instead of using the /dev paths, but either should work.

Finally plug off the SDcard and boot the Pinebook.

Source: http://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/ROCK64 ... 0181101.5D
- The fourth bullet point there: "To run the OS on eMMC"
Cinos
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They have a guide to remove the EMMC.
http://files.pine64.org/doc/pinebook/gu ... _Guide.pdf

I guess I'd need some sort of adapter like the one you listed from Hardkernel.
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I was wondering if I could boot from dietpi, download its image (my µSD being 32GB big) then dd'ing it to the EEMC.
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Ah jep great.

But as said, if you are okay to start with a fresh image (or simply test this, performance differences and such), you can flash the new image from the running (SDcard) system to the eMMC drive. Perhaps this is the better start, also to verify, it's working well, before buying the adapters, opening the Pinebook case and all that. You can always clone/flash your current system from SDcard to eMMC on the external system at a later time.
Cinos
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Then I'll go that route.
Dietpi is way better than what they provide by default and I haven't personnalized my µSD that much yet, only installed Windowmaker and configured the WIFI connectivity. Not such big of a deal to start again.
Especially if the eMMC allows me better performances.
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DD to the eemc worked well and it is very fast compared to the µSD.
But then there is an issue with Kernel 4.20 of the last upgrade corrupting the OS, preventing it to boot.
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Ui, you mean a simple APT upgrade installs Linux kernel v4.20? Unusual since this is not yet marked as very stable, most boards are on v4.14, the lastest LTS version.

In attempt to debug the issue: Do you have some copy&paste or screens from the error messages/boot log where it hangs?

You can prevent APT packages from upgrading by setting them on hold:

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apt-mark hold <package>
But I am not sure about the kernel package for the Pinebook.

Check to identify:

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dpkg -l | grep '^linux'
Cinos
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I overwrote the install with the current dietpe release so I do nto have any log, I can replicate the update that will force me to reinstall anew. After the reboot though I won't be able to copy paste as the system won't simply finish its boot process.

I'll do just that... Back in a couple of minutes...
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